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Beyond What Hurts Us

Did you know the owner of Thieves has a podcast? 

Kristen & Leslie

Join us as we navigate the twists and turns of life's challenges, validating traumatic experiences, and offering a guiding light toward hope, self-awareness, and authenticity.



Life's journey leaves its marks, visible and hidden, on us all. Kristen and Leslie, two down-to-earth friends who've walked their own paths of healing, are here to share their stories and make sure you know that your pain is heard, understood, and respected.


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